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A couple of hundred Celtic fans, including members of the Green Brigade, left Celtic Park 10 minutes into their 2-0 victory against Motherwell on Saturday last.
It was a protest over British imperialism and Celtic’s decision, at the behest of the SPL to dictate the wearing of the poppy on the player's shirts for remembrance Sunday.
I salute those Celtic fans. All over England, Scotland and Wales last weekend the revisionists came out for all to see, emblazing poppies on sports teams jerseys and holding silent tributes to 'fallen heroes'.
Nobody raised the fact that these men and women where exploited and seen as expendable working class, dying to expand the British colonial interests. They died in the trenches, in Ireland, in Afghanistan and in Iraq for the financial gain of the British ruling class.
Where are the parades for those who lost their lives at the hands of British tyranny?!
It is abhorrent and the Celtic fans who protested should be applauded for their actions, but it does raise another question about the equality of remembrance afforded to the Easter Lily and our patriot dead.
Does the Easter Lily which commemorates all those who died for Ireland’s freedom, be afforded the same status in Ireland?
Why can't Irish soccer teams hold memorials for our patriot dead?!
If you want to remember heroes, remember our 10 H Block martyrs, our 1916 leaders and all those brave men and women who died for Irish freedom!
Why don’t the news readers and the likes of Dara O’Brian wear the Easter lily with pride?!
Comrades it’s our duty to ensure equal status for our cherished emblem and to remind Irish men and women to remember their patriot dead with pride.
Why don’t the news readers and the likes of Dara O’Brian wear the Easter lily with pride?!
Comrades it’s our duty to ensure equal status for our cherished emblem and to remind Irish men and women to remember their patriot dead with pride.
It’s our duty to ensure that in a New Ireland, the sacrifices made for her be remembered and honoured by all the children of the nation!
11 comments:
Shut up. No, seriously, shut up. What you've done with that post is to sully the good name of countless men who died during both world wars and other conflicts. Yes, you could argue that many of these conflicts were started on the basis of the greed of the ruling classes, but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't commemorate those who died because of that.
Yes, I can see how troops in Ireland would be considered implements of imperialism, but can i remind you that at a time when Europe was under the Nazi jackboot, countless Irish men signed up to fight fascism at a time when the IRA were buggering around poisoning each other on Nazi submarines. How does it feel to be collaborators with fascists? How does it feel to know that had the IRA got their act together, Europe might well be under a Nazi flag?
I really hope that you were taking the piss with that post, because for you to insinuate that every single person that's died fighting for their country is some sort of Imperialist goon is fucking horrendous.
For too long Celtic and Rangers have been held hostage to wanker support like yourself, and with it have brought shame to Scottish sport, and indeed, the Scottish nation. I'm sure many Celtic supporters have died fighting in foreign wars, so are you rubbishing them as well?
You are an idiot.
The poppy is made availible to almost every public body and institution in the six counties, why not the Easter Lilly? This Easter why dont we make the Easter lilly availible to everyone in the public sector including PSNI stations?
poppy facists hitler and mrs winzers nazi cousins would be proud
I think if the Poppy is allowed on t.v and so socially accepted why cant the Easter Lilly? So i agree with what Celtic fans done and admire them for their action!
EQUALITY FOR ALL!
It annoys me that still where being opressed! What annoys me more is seeing Irish people wearing the Poppy when they wudnt even wear a Easter Lilly. If it wasnt for the 16 who were murdered in 1916 we wudnt even have 26 counties free and then the MANY more who died for freedom they each helped build towards a 32 county Ireland.
What about all those who died for that for FREEDOM should they be forgotten?
I have a love/hate realtionship with the Poppy. I admire the brave people who fought against Fascism but i don't admire the people who invaded countries raped them of their natural resources who bleed them dry and then left them in wars amoung their own people.
Their should'nt be separate rules for one Rememberance. The Easter Lilly and The Poppy should have equal rights. People should have the choice to wear one or both if they wish.
Yes, but you're missing the point that Celtic is a Scottish club, that plays in a Scottish city, and in a Scottish football league. When they play abroad they represent Scotland. Scotland is currently part of the UK, and the poppy is a symbol of those who died fighting in the armed services of those constituent parts of the uk.
In all honesty, i couldn't care less about easter lillies or what have you, whether they should be sold alongside poppies in the north is not up to me. I'm from Alba, not Armagh.
What I do care about is the fact that yet again the politics of another country were put into play during a Scottish football match. Irrespective of what the heritage of Celtic is. Indeed, Hibs and Dundee United had no problem with the protest despite their Irish roots.
If this was a match in Northern Ireland, then you might have cause to comment. But it wasn't, and i'm getting tired of the bollocks that gets put into play in the old firm.
In fact, what are you doing applauding people that go watch a garrison sport in the first place?
How was the poltics from another country put into play?
If you mean the poltics from Ireland north or south being put into play in Scotland your mistaken Scottish people have a mind of their own and many have the same view of the Poppy.
The Poppy shud'nt be put into play in a sport.
Poltics should be kept outta football or any other sport, sport is something that anyone from any backround can enjoy together.
Whats war gotta to do with football?
And it's not a garrison sport just because some people a very small minorty want to use it as grounds for hate don't mean everyone wants to, instead of supporting the Poppy and supporting war we should be fighting a different kinda war a war against bigorty and against hate.
who give the fuck if celtic palyer were a poppy thir not a part of sinn fein ogra or the army like so could some onel tell me what is the point of this bolg post? if it about is time the eastery lilly to be as equal to the poppy then yes
neily belfast
I'm sure that some people do have that view of the poppy, but on the whole most people in Scotland don't.
Plus many footballers died in WW1 & WW2, as did many football fans, so I would argue that wearing the poppy in commemoration was completely valid.
Indeed, every single player from my team signed up at the outbreak of the first world war, so the two are unfortunately linked. Many did not come back.
I do agree that politics should be kept out of sport, but then i would argue that remembering the war dead isn't politics, so the teams wearing poppies on Saturday were well within their rights to do so.
Of course the politics of north and south ireland were being put into play here. The fans that were against the wearing of the poppy were doing so on the basis that it glorified british imperialism in ireland.
As for the lily on an equal footing with the poppy, them maybe so. In that respect, the original poster shouldn't have launched a tirade against the poppy. That's not very balanced.
All i'm saying is that for too long Rangers and Celtic have been used by idiot minorities to put hatred across, and on a day that was supposed to be remembering countless war dead, the protest was crass, a fact that was shown by the Celtic support booing those that left the stadium.
i am a celtic supporter, who was at the match.
i joined the protest. i left the ground.
my great-grandfather fought in the first world war. but the poppy doesn't just represent that anymore.
what anon doesn't understand is that to many people the poppy also represents the UDR/RIR, the RUC, the UDA in some parts! and now also war in iraq and afghanistan. (over 600,00 people died so far in iraq)
To be honest I believe the poppy has been brought to shame.
I hope some day as a nationalist i can attend rememberance day events, but to be honest it won't be while british troops are in iraq, afghanistan or ireland.
the poppy was meant to remember the two world wars not every british military escapade.
And for the record i wear my easter lilly with absolute pride!
I'm interested, do you consider your grandfather to be an imperialist, seeing as he fought in an imperialist war?
I'm well aware what the poppy means to people on both sides of the divide. Indeed, i've never denied that.
It was fucking ridiculous that there was a minute's applause at Parkhead. When Hearts fans booed during the minutes silence for the Pope, everyone was up in arms about it, and i'm sure somewhere on this page there was a diatribe about how irresponsible it was.
Guess what. Your protest is the same.
How would you feel if you were told that the Easter Lily couldn't be worn, or that an element in the crowd protested during an Irish sporting event because one of their relatives was killed as a result of the IRA/UDA/NWA whatever? Would you condone their actions? Would you feel moved to make a response?
And what are you blethering on about casualties in Iraq for? Of course it's an unjust war, but i would counter by saying that a good chunk of those deaths are caused by insurgents blowing up market places, because that's certainly where large number of troops hang out.
The poppy is not some govermental edict. It is purely voluntary. To suggest it stands for imperialism is bollocks, utter bollocks. Surely all wars are wars of imperialism of some sort or other. I could argue that the Easter Lily stands for everything taken out in the name of a free Ireland, from the rising itself, to kids in warrington being blown up. But i won't, because i respect the distinction.
You make me sick. if it wasn't for these brave people you wouldn't be free, you would be under german nazi rule. honestly, your stupidity and ignorance amazes me.
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